Jan. 8, 2025

Spiritual Transformation: The Power of Surrender and Resurrection (Spirit of Ministry - Part 1, Episode 13)

Spiritual Transformation: The Power of Surrender and Resurrection (Spirit of Ministry - Part 1, Episode 13)

Send us a text What if embracing the dying of Jesus within us could unlock a life of unparalleled divine transformation? Join us as we explore the profound spiritual teachings found in 2 Corinthians 4, specifically focusing on the call to manifest His life through our daily surrender. We unravel the principle of seed time, and harvest through Jesus’ journey, encouraging believers to engage in a continuous cycle of laying down and reclaiming their lives in faith. Understand the spiritual...

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What if embracing the dying of Jesus within us could unlock a life of unparalleled divine transformation? Join us as we explore the profound spiritual teachings found in 2 Corinthians 4, specifically focusing on the call to manifest His life through our daily surrender. We unravel the principle of seed  time, and harvest through Jesus’ journey, encouraging believers to engage in a continuous cycle of laying down and reclaiming their lives in faith. Understand the spiritual mystery of living as spirit beings within earthly vessels and discover how we can emulate Jesus’ indestructible nature by embracing our own spiritual transformation that the Spirit works in us.

Immerse yourself in the transformative power of surrender and align your life more closely with the spirit rather than the flesh. We reflect on the teachings of John the Baptist and the apostles, emphasizing a commitment to decrease oneself so that Christ may increase within us. Through personal stories and challenges, experience how stepping out in faith can lead to spiritual growth and resilience, with practical insights on how to let the spirit guide us toward embodying the life of the gospel. Our discussion also underscores the significance of faith and obedience, revealing how true belief precedes expression, as demonstrated by Paul's teachings.

In an inspiring narrative of overcoming insecurities, we share a personal journey of preaching in Spanish without an interpreter, highlighting the power of surrender and resilience. By relinquishing pride and fear, we glimpse the remarkable ways God works through our willingness to embrace new challenges. This episode encourages listeners to become ready for unexpected opportunities and new assignments that may come their way, guided by faith and divine purpose. With each story and insight, prepare to be challenged and inspired to embrace your own path of spiritual transformation and growth.

00:00 - The Dying and Rising Life

11:46 - The Transformational Power of Surrender

20:34 - The Process of Faith and Obedience

37:30 - The Process of Transformation and Obedience

45:41 - Radical Transformation Through Surrender

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Let's turn to 2 Corinthians 4.

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We're going to be in and about verse 13 today.

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Glory to God, hallelujah.

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We have been talking the last time about this strange phrase that Paul uses in the verses preceding.

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Here he says this that we are always.

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In verse 10, we are always caring about, in the body, the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body.

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We said the last time we were together that this dying is not so much the dying on Calvary, not his death, but the process in which Jesus obeyed the Father.

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When the Father sent him to earth, he gave him one commandment.

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He said this this commandment.

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I have received from my Father One thing that I may lay down my life and take it up again.

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This is the principle of seed, time and harvest.

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This is the point.

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Can I say this?

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This is the point of seed, time and harvest.

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Every plant that has ever been planted, every animal that has ever been inseminated, every expression of seed, time and harvest in this creation has as its genesis, not as foretelling, but it all came out of the fact that God spoke to the Son and said I give you this.

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You can lay it down, you can take it up.

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Jesus said in John, chapter 12, unless a seed falls to the ground and dies, it remaineth alone.

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But if it falls to the ground and dies, it produces much fruit and it's not alone anymore.

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That's the principle of seed, time and harvest, but as it applied to him first, everything about God, amen, comes out of Jesus.

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In Him was life, in Him was light.

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He was in the beginning with God.

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Everything that was created was created by Him.

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Was seed, time and harvest created?

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Yes, it's a law.

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It didn't exist independent of God.

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God created it.

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How did he create it?

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He created it by Jesus.

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What does that mean?

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That means that that law had to be expressed in Jesus' life.

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So when he said, I'm going to send you to lay down your life and take it up again, amen.

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That was the very definition of seed, time and harvest.

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Every kind of expression of seed, time and harvest that's in the earth flows out of that.

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So every kind of life that there is in the earth has its origin in Jesus.

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In him was life, and that life was the light of men.

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Amen.

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Not just natural life, but spiritual life as well.

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All of that comes out of Jesus.

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Nothing that is made has any other source.

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Now, we don't usually think of things like this.

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We don't usually think of the law of seed, time and harvest coming out of Jesus, but it did come out of him and it came out of that one commandment.

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Now, why is that important?

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Because that is the essence of how we live as spirit beings, of how we live as spirit beings, the essence of how we live as spirit beings in this earthen vessel.

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Remember what Paul said but we have this treasure, the glory in an earthen vessel, that the excellency of the power may be of God and not of us.

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So Paul says this is a great mystery.

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This will cause everybody and their brother just to scratch their head and go what?

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Because nobody ever saw it coming that God would live in this flesh.

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And he just didn't come to live in this flesh just to make you a better Adam.

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He came in this flesh to make you like Jesus in every way.

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Hallelujah, and rule number one of Jesus is in every way, hallelujah.

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And rule number one of Jesus is I have the power to lay down my life and I have the power to take it up again.

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Praise God.

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Paul calls this the dying of Jesus, because we know that Jesus didn't experience death.

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His body died, but that's just because he laid it down.

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If he hadn't laid down his life, he'd still be hanging on a cross.

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They'd have driven more nails into him than you could think of.

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They'd have whipped him some more Until there was nothing left.

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He would still be alive.

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How does that work?

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I don't know.

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His bodily form was indestructible because it had no sin.

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So we can't conceive of that, but it's still true.

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Bible says they didn't kill him.

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He laid down his life.

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Are we all on this page now?

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Because this is important?

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Jesus didn't die.

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He laid down his life and then he took it back up again.

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Praise God, hallelujah, are we with you?

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Are we hearing this?

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So Paul makes this statement then in verse 12.

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He says this Well, let's read verse 11 again.

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For we who live are always delivered into death.

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For Jesus' sake, that the life of Jesus may be manifested in our mortal flesh.

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So we're delivered into this process of laying down our life so that we can pick it up again.

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When Jesus said this, he said if you want to follow me, you've got to lay down your life.

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You've got to crucify your life daily.

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You've got to die daily.

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Paul said this on a couple of occasions.

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He said I die daily.

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What does that mean?

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Well, we've always talked about, you know, in religious circles.

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We've always talked about well, you've got to crucify that old man.

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Well, you can't do a very good job of that.

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At the best you might get a nail into your feet and one through one hand, but the other hand is going to be out here flopping around because you just can't crucify yourself.

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And that is not what we're talking about.

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I mean, there's some truth in that and I'm not gainsaying that.

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I'm saying this that the dying daily is a different process.

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It's a laying down of your life, a willful laying down of your life, even the good part Paul said this forgetting those things which lie, which are behind, pressing forth to those things which lie ahead.

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I press on.

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Well, what things do you forget about in the past?

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Just the bad things?

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No, you got to lay all of it aside, because if you don't, you'll rest on it.

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You'll rest on your laurels, as the saying goes, and you won't press on to the new thing that God has for you.

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This is one of the hardest things to get a grip on, because we've all had victories, amen.

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We've all had victories in the Lord.

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We've all had hard-fought victories, a lot of prayer, a lot of seeking the Lord, amen.

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And we saw God do great things.

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It's easy to rest, but the only rest that you get to do is the rest where you enter in to the Sabbath rest, and in order to do that, you've got to lay down your life so that you can pick it up again.

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Now, this isn't mass suicide.

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This is an earnest expectation of a daily resurrection.

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This is an earnest expectation that, as you lay down your life, god has given you the same commandment.

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If he told you to die daily, he's going to tell you to be resurrected daily.

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Amen.

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If he told you to die, if he told you to die daily, you can be guaranteed that there's one more resurrection than there is a death.

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Amen, you can count on it.

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You can put it in the bank.

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Jesus counted on it all the way past Calvary into the tomb and out of the grave.

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Amen.

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Are you hearing me Praise the Lord?

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Glory to God.

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So death, this process of dying and raising back up, is alive in us and it's working.

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Read what Paul says in verse 12.

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He says death is working in us, not physical death working in us, not physical death working in us to produce an end of our life, but the dying process is working in us so that life can be expressed in us, the only way.

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Listen, how many of you believe that Jesus brings life?

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Okay, now let's move on beyond entry-level salvation.

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Okay, let's move past that.

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You know well, he came to give you life.

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Yes, I received the life of God.

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You know I'm saved, my sins are forgiven.

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You know I'm going to heaven.

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Let's move on past that.

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We're way beyond that.

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Okay, we're not.

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I'm not trying to preach to to.

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You know, baby Christians here, that's not what I'm talking about.

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I'm talking about how do you get into a realm that your life is more spirit than it is flesh?

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How do you get into a realm where you experience more of God and less of all of this, where God is totally consuming you?

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We sang that song consume me with the fire of your spirit, consume me and make me more like you.

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That's what we're talking about.

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We're talking about being consumed.

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Amen, amen.

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How do we do, see, I want to know how to do that.

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I don't want to just sing a song and it sounds good.

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You know I don't want to read this verse and just go by it because I don't understand it.

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You know, understand it.

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You know you misunderstand these scriptures and you're going to miss a whole lot about God.

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I will stand up on any street corner, anytime you want to, and debate the chapter three and chapter four.

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Give you a nutshell of the gospel like.

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You don't get anywhere else.

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If you don't understand it, you'll miss it.

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You will miss God in His transformational power and you'll settle for another kind of gospel.

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Most people wrestle with these scriptures and they don't ever get out of it.

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What's here?

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Because they won't let the Spirit teach them.

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Hallelujah, men can't teach you this stuff, only the gospel.

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Now here's the point we're going to talk about today in all of this that if this dying process is laying down of life and then picking it up again, laying it down, picking up again, laying it down, picking it up, laying it down, picking it up, laying it down, picking it up is the way that more life, spiritual life, comes to you, cause every time you you pick it back up, you've got more of him, less of you.

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This is how it works, folks.

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This is the only way it works.

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You want to be transformed.

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This is how it works.

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You've got to lay your life down daily, semi-daily, every hour, every minute.

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Just lay it down, pick it back up, lay it down, pick it back up, and every time you do that, you're going to be more like him and less like you.

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Now you're still going to look like yourself, don't I look like myself?

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I look like myself.

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Yeah, you're going to look like yourself, but this thing inside of you is getting bigger.

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This thing inside of you is getting more like Jesus.

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It thinks like Jesus.

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It acts like Jesus.

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It talks like Jesus.

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It wants more of Jesus.

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It wants less of that which is not Jesus.

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It's more Jesus, jesus, jesus, jesus.

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Why is that a problem?

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It's only a problem to people that aren't Jesus.

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Hello, if you're around people who are seeking after the same thing, and it's Jesus, jesus, jesus, jesus, jesus.

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There's nothing wrong with that, because he is all in all.

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He fills all.

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He is the source of all.

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What is wrong with the word all here?

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All?

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He is the source of all.

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What is wrong with the word all here?

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Well, you just don't want to get crazy and radical about it.

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Why not Listen to me folks, I don't care who you, I don't care who you go out today, go to your favorite restaurant, go watch your favorite television show, go do whatever you want to do.

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You may meet in the course of your day today.

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You may run across 50 people, 100 people, I don't know how many people.

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I mean.

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You're not going to have interaction with hardly any of them, but you'll run across them.

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Just think of all the people you pass on the highway.

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I guarantee you there's not a one of them that is John the Baptist or his close competitor, because Jesus said there has not been a prophet greater among men than John the Baptist.

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So that ends the discussion right there.

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So you can see all the people.

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You could go to the Cowboys game last night and there'd be thousands of people there.

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Not a one of them is John the Baptist.

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And John the Baptist said this he must increase and I must decrease.

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So if he said that, where does that leave you?

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Because I had the Lord tell me this.

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He said this.

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He said I was boasting to him about how well I preached one night and the Lord said he didn't talk about my sermon, he didn't talk about what I did, he didn't talk about any of that.

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He just said this I created John the Baptist and you're not.

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So I would just submit to you that that probably fits you too, that you're not.

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And if it was good enough for Paul and Silas, if it was good enough for John the Baptist, it's good enough for me.

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I must decrease, he must increase, and that is transformation.

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And the process is this the same one that Jesus brought to earth, that he had the power to lay down his life and he had the power to take it up again.

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Now, listen to me, folks, if he had that power is called the body of Christ.

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Do you not think that the body has received that same commandment?

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Of course it has.

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It was given to the head and the head, whatever the head has received, it now belongs to all those that will be in him as he is.

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So we are, we have received that commandment.

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It hasn't changed.

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So we are commanded to lay down our lives and pick them back up.

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This is what we're talking about here.

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We're not talking about physical death.

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We're not talking about being tortured and dying.

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Amen, because Paul already covered that.

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He said we're persecuted, but not forsaken.

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We're struck down, not destroyed.

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We're always caring about the body of the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus may be manifested in our body.

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This is something that has to happen, and it has to happen if we're going to be transformed.

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Bible says in the book of Malachi Malachi foresaw this process.

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He said this that the sons of Levi would be purified as gold is purified, seven times in the fire that they might present to the Lord a sacrifice of righteousness, amen.

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What is that sacrifice?

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That sacrifice is you.

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What does Romans 12, 1 and 2 talk about if it's not talking about you, amen.

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It's not talking about a sacrifice unto physical death.

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It's talking about a sacrifice unto spiritual death and resurrection.

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Glory to God.

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Everybody wants to talk about resurrection happening in the sweep, by and by, but your resurrection is going to happen today if you'll lay down your life.

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That's what this chapter is talking about.

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It's talking about that kind of laying down of life and that kind of resurrection so that you can be transformed into His image.

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If you think you're going to get into His image in any other way, you're kidding yourself.

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You're believing another gospel, an easy peasy.

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Have it your way, gospel, amen.

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But this gospel won't be had your way.

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You're going to have it his way or you're going to have it no way.

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But if you have it another way, paul said you got trouble because have it no way.

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But if you have it another way, paul said you got trouble because that way is cursed.

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I didn't say it.

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Paul said it by the Holy Ghost and he was saying it to himself.

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He said if I come to you and I preach some other gospel other than what I have preached to you, then I am to be accursed.

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You should take me out and stone me.

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Glory to God, you've got preachers around here that change their message like you change socks One week it's this and one week it's that.

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Whatever the wind is blowing, you can go listen to my tapes from 20 years ago.

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Amen, I'm still preaching the same thing, am I not?

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She's been there.

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Glory to God, hallelujah.

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So here's the key.

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Here's the key.

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I'm going to help you here.

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I'm going to try to help you get past some stock teaching that we all ran into in the 80s, you know, and help you see where God is trying to broaden our vision into what he's really doing.

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Amen.

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So verse 13 says our vision into what he's really doing Amen.

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So verse 13 says and since?

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Since what?

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Since all this stuff I'm talking about here, about the process of the dying of Jesus.

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What is the dying of Jesus?

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The laying down, picking up, laying down, picking up, laying down, picking up, laying down, picking up, laying down, picking up.

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Are you with me?

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He has given us that commandment to do so, that we can be transformed into his image.

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But you won't do this.

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Listen to me very carefully.

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You won't do this unless you understand what's happening in verse 13.

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Since we have the same spirit of faith.

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So there's a spirit of faith and the Holy Ghost is the spirit of faith, but then there are other spirits that come and minister faith to you.

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Are other spirits that come and minister faith to you, a spirit of faith, since we have this spirit of faith?

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Now watch this according to what is written.

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I believed and therefore I spoke.

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Now listen to me, folks.

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Only Paul could get a revelation of faith out of that scripture, because the scripture says I believe and therefore I spoke that all men are liars.

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It wasn't exactly a, you know, paul just snipped the first part of that verse out and laid hold of it, but the principle is there.

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I believed.

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Therefore I spoke.

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Now we've been indoctrinated just into the second part of it, that we speak and we're going to have those things that we speak.

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But that's not what the Bible says.

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The Bible says in Mark 11 that if we stand praying, believe that we will receive and we shall have those things that we say.

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And everybody's all focused on having the things that we say without believing.

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How is believing happening?

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By hearing the word of God and obeying it.

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So when you hear the word of God and obeying it, so when you hear the word of God and obey it, amen, faith comes and then you can have those things that faith speaks, because it's a spirit of faith that is working with you to do that.

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Do you understand what I'm just telling you?

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You believe first because the word comes.

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It brings the faith that you need to believe it.

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When you believe it, then you can put that faith on your mouth and speak it.

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But you just can't randomly say, well, I'm going to have that.

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Like angels, bring that here.

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They don't have to obey your word.

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They are wired to obey the word of God and if it comes out of your mouth they'll be there to help you.

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But they don't have to obey your word.

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They're not wired that way.

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Are you hearing me?

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Glory to God.

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Now I want to say this that if you don't have the faith to believe that you're going to be resurrected when you lay down your life, you will never lay it down.

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Why did Jesus, why did Jesus willingly go to Calvary Watch this Jesus was in Gethsemane.

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Whole bunch of soldiers came to arrest him.

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They had knives, they had clubs.

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You know, they had brute strength.

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And Jesus said this.

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He said why have you come like this?

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What have I done?

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And why have you come with all this force?

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Do you not know that I could call down tens of thousands of angels?

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But then how would it be fulfilled?

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What is written?

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How would I lay down my life if I bailed out here at the last minute and called in angels and turned you all into crispy critters?

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How would it be written?

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How would that help anything?

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I wouldn't fulfill my destiny, I wouldn't obey the commandment of laying down my life.

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But how could he do that?

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Listen, folks, just try to put yourself in that position.

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You're not hearing a single word that I'm saying this morning.

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Try to imagine now when Jesus said I could call on those, a single word that I'm saying this morning.

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Try to imagine Now when Jesus said I could call on those angels and they'd come down.

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Did he have faith to do that?

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You better believe he had faith to do that.

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He had seen that happen.

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He'd seen it in the wilderness.

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After 40 days and 40 nights, the Bible says that angels came to him.

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How do you think they just showed up.

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He commanded them to come.

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He knew who he was.

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He knew he could call down angels.

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But you know what else?

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He knew by faith that he could lay down his life and pick it back up again.

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You don't go to Calvary willingly unless you have and pick it back up again.

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You don't go to Calvary willingly unless you have the faith.

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I'm not talking about just a belief system.

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I'm talking about having the.

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I've heard from God and I'm walking it out and he's producing faith in me and he's producing obedience in me and I know that if I lay down my life, I can pick it back up again, because this commandment I received from my Father, that I lay down my life and I pick it back up again.

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Now listen, folks, do you think that was the first time that ever came out of his mouth.

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No, it was not the first time that ever came out of his mouth.

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He had been saying that to himself and to God, and to angels, angels and to anybody else that would listen all of his life and it shaped who he was.

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And it shaped who he became Because it allowed in the obedience, the continual obedience to that commandment filled him with the word of God.

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Yes, he was the word of God, but hey, you know, he came as an infant.

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He had to be filled.

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Praise the Lord.

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Why, why is this so important?

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Cause it belongs to you, but it's only going to come to you by faith.

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You got to believe it.

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I've said that.

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Let me give you an example.

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Sometimes you wonder in your walk why bad things happen to you when you didn't do anything wrong.

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Matter of fact, you were doing everything right.

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You were doing exactly what you were supposed to do.

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In fact, you did exactly what the Lord told you to do and it was like somebody dumped a half a ton truck of mud on your head and all of a sudden it just turned to.

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You know what?

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All around you, you go what, and it may have taken.

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Listen to me, put this in your charismatic pipe and smoke it.

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It may have taken you years to recover from that and you go.

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Why did that happen?

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That happened, and it's simply this If you walk with God in this process, he will use your life to stir others to obedience.

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But you've got to lay it down.

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You've got to be willing to be walked on, abused, exposed, mistreated, slapped in the face, scornfully used, spitefully treated.

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You got to be willing to do that.

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I don't like that.

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That's all part of it.

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That's all part of laying it down.

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And then you got to have the faith that, even if it takes 10, 15 years, god is going to resurrect me and I'm going to come back stronger.

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I'm going to come back more prosperous.

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I'm going to come back with a better word.

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I'm going to come back with more character.

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And woe be unto them that did not obey God because of the example that he had put in my life.

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God's going to deal with them, you can count on it.

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He gave them a chance to repent, just like, oh, jesus, just like Jonah was sent to Nineveh amen, and they repented at Jonah's preaching.

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Jesus used that as an example.

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At least they repented.

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I've come to you and you haven't even repented.

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At least they repented, amen.

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They were a people who, at the example of Jonah and his righteousness, repented, amen.

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They were a people who, at the example of Jonah and his righteousness, repented.

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But there's a people sometimes that God, god is so just that he will give unrighteous people a chance to get righteous at your expense, amen.

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And you think well, let's see, laying down my life means I'm not going to eat bacon this morning.

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No, you know.

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Okay, you can choose to do that or not to do that.

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Don't get Jewish on me and do the pork thing.

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You know, just be real.

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That's not what he's talking about.

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He's talking about being willing to die for him.

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He's talking about being willing to die for him, not for the death experience, but for the resurrection experience, so that you've got a testimony to tell.

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You know, dying never got anybody any testimony, but the resurrection, sure enough, gets you one Amen Because you'll know.

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And enough gets you one Amen Because you'll know, and everybody around you know, that I was once down and it looked like I was out, but God resurrected me out of that ash heap so that we could do it again.

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Glory to God, hallelujah, praise the Lord.

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Now let me just give you another example.

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You know you think you can get to a place where you don't have to do this anymore, but that's not true.

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I had a situation a few years ago where people who were barely saved started to bring false testimony against me concerning my prophetic ministry.

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Well, he, you know, I mean you know that wasn't true what he said to me.

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Listen, somebody that's got 45 years in ministry and over 35 years of prophetic ministry and I prophesied over thousands of people of prophetic ministry and I've prophesied over thousands of people.

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You know, some barely wet-behind-the-ears green Christian ought to know enough to just shut up and listen.

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But not in today's church.

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They don't.

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They get to stand up in the middle of a service and bring accusation against an elder and they were not rebuked.

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It caused such a spiritual atmosphere to transform that church because of that that to this day the Lord will not allow me to prophesy in that church.

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But I had to suffer the death of that ridicule and that abuse and was not able to say a word about it because I didn't hear it.

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It was done out of my hearing.

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I wasn't there, I just received it by secondhand information.

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I mean, listen, folks.

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You can say, well, you know, you're strong enough, you can take it.

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That broke my heart.

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You can say, well, you know, you're strong enough, you can take it.

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That broke my heart.

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It broke my heart that they would not deal with that.

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I mean, just, you sit down right now.

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Man's the apostolic head of this work and we will not tolerate that kind of talk in a public meeting.

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Totally out of order, totally just.

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You know, you can't have babies doing that kind of stuff.

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They'll do it all day long if you give them even a lick of a head.

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I'm not saying that I'm without.

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It's impossible for me to err.

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But I'm telling you one thing it's impossible for some baby in Christ to judge me.

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I will not be judged by them.

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That's just not going to happen.

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That is not God and that is not the way it's going to work.

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But I had to suffer through that, amen, I had to die to that.

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Praise God, hallelujah.

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You think you get to a point where you don't have to do this anymore.

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But that's not true.

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The further you go into this thing, the more it happens.

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You just kind of get used to it in some ways.

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Some ways you know other ways.

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It just doesn't hurt less, especially when it gets to things that are so close to your heart and so close to God's heart.

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See, the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

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When somebody insults the testimony of Jesus, you don't think that there's repercussion.

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I'd hate to be those people.

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Anyway, praise God, oh Jesus.

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Anyway, praise god, oh jesus.

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So here's the spirit of faith that you have to have.

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You have to have this spirit of faith or you won't do this.

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If you, if you think you know god's out to get you and he's out to destroy your life, and if you lay down your life, you know, next thing, you're going to be in glory someplace and this is going to be the worst thing that ever happened to me.

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You don't know this God.

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He doesn't deal with His people that way.

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He's just trying to get you into the process.

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Hello, listen, have we not established already in this meeting that God doesn't change and he's not going to change His ways?

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To make you feel more comfortable, and if this is the way that he has ordained for transformation and you want to be transformed and you want to do something more than sing about it, I would suggest that you read this and read it and read it, and read it, and read it and memorize it, and read it and study it and meditate on it and let God begin to teach you what real transformation is all about, because you can talk about it all day long and you can sing that song.

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Consume Me all day long, amen.

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And it's a good song and I love it, but you've got to know the process, because if you think well, you know God's going to just do something from heaven and I'm going to be instantly transformed.

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You've got another thing coming, because Jesus did not get transformed from the creation of Adam into the creation of Jesus by his crucifixion and resurrection without obeying this commandment of laying down his life and picking it back up again.

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That is the key to the creation of the new creation and how can it not be the key to the existence of all those who are in that creation?

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That's what I want to know.

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Hallelujah, so we have the same spirit of faith According to what is written.

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I believe, therefore, I spoke, we also believe and we also speak.

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What do we believe and what do we also speak?

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Verse 14,.

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Knowing that he who raised up the Lord Jesus will also raise us up with Jesus and will present us with you.

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So this raising up again is what Jesus did and what he gives to us, so that we can believe that God will raise us up again, so that Jesus can present us Not as babes in arms but as sons of God, as sons and daughters of God who have come into an appointment, amen.

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And every time.

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As sons and daughters of God who have come into an appointment, amen.

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And every time.

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Every time we willingly lay down our lives and pick it back up again, we get presented.

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Oh, did you not Listen to me?

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You need to hear me.

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You need to listen.

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Read the first chapter of the book of Job that there was a day when the sons of God went to present themselves before the Father.

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Well, you're not hearing me.

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I said there was a day when the sons of God went and presented themselves before the Father.

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I said there was a day when the sons of God went to present themselves before the Father and in that day that you lay down your life to receive it back up again.

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My Bible says that Jesus takes you in and presents you as a son of God to the Father so that you can get your new orders, which are lay down your life and pick it up again.

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In this arena, in this field, in this country, in this situation I feel the Holy Ghost.

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I mean when God said I'm just about at wit's end.

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You know, I'm just about at wit's end.

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I just have just about had it and the Holy Ghost visits me and says he wants to send me to Mexico.

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I don't want to go to Mexico.

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Who wants to go to Mexico?

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Unless you're going to Acapulco or Cancun or someplace?

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You don't want to go to Mexico.

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Nobody wants to.

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I didn't want to go to Mexico unless you're going to Acapulco or Cancun or someplace.

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You don't want to go to Mexico.

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Nobody wants to.

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I didn't want to go to Mexico.

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He said, well, I'll send somebody else.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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I'd just been laid down and picked back up after one of the worst things I've ever been through.

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I was just about on the backside of getting healed on that one and here I go again.

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But when you claim to be a son of God, amen, and you have just been presented, you have been presented for assignment.

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Will somebody help me here?

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Listen to what it says.

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I'm not making this up.

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He will raise us up with Jesus and present us with you.

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Listen, is Jesus the same yesterday and today and forever?

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Did Jesus lay down his life and pick it back up again?

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Well, the next time you have to lay down your life, who do you think is going to be there with you?

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And who's going to be there with you when you take it back up again?

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The Bible says right here it's Jesus.

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He's going to be there when you lift it up, he's going to be there when you pick it back up.

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And when you pick it back up, he's going to present you.

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Pick it back up, and when you pick it back up, he's going to present you.

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Now everybody talks put this into a end of time.

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You know graduation to heaven, scripture, but that's not what it is.

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We're not talking about that.

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We're talking about this daily process of dying and picking it back up, and Jesus is going to be there.

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That requires a spirit of faith to believe that that's going to happen and he'll never leave you, he'll never forsake you.

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He'll never even release his grip on you.

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He can't do it and he won't do it.

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Are you getting this?

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So, if he's with you when he lays it down.

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He's going to be with you when he takes it up and then he's not going to release his grip on you until he presents you as a son of God for a new assignment.

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And then, when you get the new assignment, he's not going to release his grip on you, but he's going to take you to that new assignment, put an anointing on your life, put a grace upon your life, give you abilities that you've never known before, and he's going to enable you to lay down your life and pick it back up again.

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I'm sitting on a platform in front of 2,000 people, one of the biggest crowds.

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I mean I'm talking about church people, leaders, apostles, prophets in the center of Mexico.

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I've told you this story a hundred times.

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I'll tell it until Jesus tells me not to tell it.

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And I've got a translator, except he doesn't like what I'm preaching.

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So he's preaching his own message, and I know it because I can understand what he's saying.

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I put the microphone down.

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I said now look here, brother.

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I said you're either going to preach what I preach or I'm going to sit you down and embarrass you right in front of all these people.

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He looked at me like how'd you know?

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I said I understood every word.

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You said Now are you going to interpret what I said?

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So I started again and he kept on preaching what he wanted to preach.

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I grabbed the microphone right out of his hand.

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I grabbed the microphone right out of his hand, I took the microphone right out of his hand and I said sit down.

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I started preaching in Spanish in front of all those people and I was a fool.

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I couldn't even they said.

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People said later it was terrible, we couldn't even they said.

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People said later it was terrible, we couldn't understand anything.

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But God moved.

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See, I had to die.

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What am I going to do now, lord?

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I'm up here in all these, front of these people, and you know I have gotten interpreter.

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I could just hear the Lord saying well, you knit.

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I've been teaching you Spanish since you were 13 years old.

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You ought to be able to do something by now, you know.

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So I let it rip.

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God moved in spite of my inabilities.

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I had to die to all of that insecurity and pride.

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I had to be willing to be humiliated in front of the cream of the crop of Mexican preachers and pastors, amen.

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And I turned around.

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We're in this great big warehouse and I turned around and I see this great big glass wall behind me of all the crisscrossed ironwork and stuff between the and I go, oh my God, that was exactly what God had shown me in one of the parts of the vision, when he showed me a vision of my entire life.

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That was one of the places and I'm standing in that place.

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I never knew that when I was standing in that place I'd make a total fool out of myself, but I had to lay it down and I've never used an interpreter since and I have hundreds of hours of messages in Spanish on the internet now because I was willing to lay it down so I could pick it back up and it would be better than ever.

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Are you hearing what I'm saying today?

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You want to be transformed.

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You want to be radically transformed.

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You've got to perfect this process and be willing, and I'm telling you what it's going to be.

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It is not ever painless and it is not ever without difficulty, and I mean you're going to lose friends, you're going to lose family, you're going to lose acquaintances.

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You're going to lose friends.

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You're going to lose family.

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You're going to lose acquaintances.

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You're going to lose you know.

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Glory to God.

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But if you want to be presented, how many of you want to be presented?

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There was a day, say.

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There was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves, came to present themselves.

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You know we sing, you know when the role is called up, yonder, I want to be in that role, I don't want to just be.

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I want to be presented now and commissioned now and appointed now and given destiny now, even if it costs me.

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I want it now Because there's another now, tomorrow, and there's another now, tomorrow, and one after that.

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See, we all think we're almost ready to hang it up.

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I don't think that way.

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I got more assignments and I got more appointments and I got more times to be presented.

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What about you?

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What about you?

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Amen, let's stand, praise God.