Jan. 7, 2025
Hearing God's Voice: Essential for Real Spiritual Transformation (Spirit of Ministry - Part 2 Episode 18)
Send us a text What if the key to unlocking a deeper walk in the faith of God lies not just in reading scriptures but in truly hearing God's voice? Prepare to explore the profound insights of 2 Corinthians 3:14 as we unravel the concept of spiritual blindness that clouded the people of Israel at Mount Sinai. This episode promises to enrich your spiritual journey by inviting you to seek God's glory and voice beyond the written word, examining the impact of historical Bible translations, and th...
What if the key to unlocking a deeper walk in the faith of God lies not just in reading scriptures but in truly hearing God's voice? Prepare to explore the profound insights of 2 Corinthians 3:14 as we unravel the concept of spiritual blindness that clouded the people of Israel at Mount Sinai. This episode promises to enrich your spiritual journey by inviting you to seek God's glory and voice beyond the written word, examining the impact of historical Bible translations, and the challenges they pose in capturing spiritual truths accurately.
Join us as we emphasize the incredible importance of approaching the Bible with a spiritually guided mindset, recognizing that not all divine communication is captured in text. By reflecting on the experiences of biblical figures, we delve into the broader scope of God's interactions throughout history. This thought-provoking conversation encourages balancing rigorous scriptural study with openness to spiritual insights, nurturing a personal and ongoing relationship with the divine that transcends traditional religious practices.
Experience the transformative power of developing a direct connection with God beyond denominational doctrines and institutional teachings. As we recount vivid anecdotes of divine guidance, discover the strength and wisdom that such a relationship can bring to life's challenges. Our discussion highlights the importance of embracing spiritual growth, urging you to uncover God's plan for victorious living. Through prayer and exploration of the Holy Spirit's role, we celebrate the unveiling of spiritual truths and the transformative work of God in our lives.
00:00 - Unveiling the Glory of God
19:25 - Exploring Beyond Written Scriptures
26:39 - Discovering Divine Revelation Through Scripture
42:15 - Experiencing God's Presence and Revelation
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Let's turn in our Bibles to 2 Corinthians 3.
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Hallelujah, praise God.
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One of the things that we've studied in this long study about this name of the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of glory, the Spirit of ministry, as it's revealed in chapters 3, 4, and 5 of 2 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, one of the things that is how should I say this?
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That's very unconventional is the scripture in verse 14, where it says concerning the apostasy of the people of Israel at Mount Sinai, when they refused to hear the voice of the Lord and rejected his voice, told Moses to go up and be there in a meteorite, which God had never intended.
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He wanted to speak to his people directly.
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God came down from heaven and brought heaven with him and camped out on top of the mountain and spoke.
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The people of God rejected that and because they rejected it, the Bible says in verse 14, chapter 3 and verse 14, that their minds were blinded and that because they refused the glory, because they refused the voice, not only were they blinded in their natural eyes, they were blinded in their spiritual eyes.
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They couldn't understand anything.
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They couldn't even understand the law that was plainly written.
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Are you hearing what I'm saying?
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See, they didn't have the revelation that Paul had when he.
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They didn't understand what the reality of the veil and the glory was doing.
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They never really understood that.
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They never understood the purpose of the veil in the tabernacle.
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They never understood the purpose of the veil on Moses's face.
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They never understood why Moses would glow when he came back out of the presence.
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All that did to them was produce fear, and that's not what God wanted to do.
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He wanted something else.
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He wanted to communicate and build relationship.
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And all they got out of it was fear.
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Because when they rejected the glory of the Lord and rejected his voice, there came down across their spiritual eyes this veil.
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Okay, paul describes it real, he says this veil.
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Their minds were blinded and this veil remains every time the Old Testament is read, until they become in Christ.
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That's the whole verse there.
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And then I brought this point out that you know we don't usually think about this, because we've been trained all of our Christian experience that the most important thing you can do is read the word.
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Because if you read the word, do is read the Word, because if you read the Word you will find out about Jesus, you'll find out about God and you will no doubt about that, you'll find out a lot of information, but if you don't go after the glory and after the voice, amen, you will have this same veil over your eyes, because you have elevated the written word over the voice and it is the voice.
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Every word in your Bible came from the voice of God.
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All scriptures are God-breathed and they were written by men of old as God moved on them by His Spirit.
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So every word in your Bible is God-breathed.
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At least it was when the person who heard it wrote it down.
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Now I can't be responsible for hundreds of years of translations, hundreds of years of copying, hundreds of years of interpretation into different languages.
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You know you can't deal with that.
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I mean, you don't.
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Are you following what I'm saying?
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You can't.
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You're not responsible for all that.
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What you are responsible for is trying to dig through all that.
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Understand that not everybody that translated a Bible was saved.
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Not everybody that made a copy of the Bible was saved.
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Not everybody that transcribed it, even within a few generations, had clarity of thought.
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It's real easy, you can imagine, be real easy for people to insert their own thinking, which is exactly what happens when I'll just degenerate or digress a bit.
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You know when the King James Bible was translated and it is still one of the great works of English language and one of the great works of Bible translation.
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I'm not taking anything away from that translation or any of the ones that preceded it.
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You have to imagine where the people were at that time and how great these works were.
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We've talked about this at some length, amen.
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But that doesn't get you away from the fact that most of the people were not saved, not the way we understand salvation, clearly not filled with the Holy Ghost, not the way we understand that, not led and moved by the Spirit of God, not the way we understand that.
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Now, where we have come in the knowing of things by the Spirit, we know things.
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They didn't have a clue.
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They were in bondage to Catholicism.
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They were in bondage to 15 years worth of deadness in the church and they didn't have a clue as to what some of those things really meant.
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So they translated it into words that at least made some sense to them.
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I can't really emphasize this enough.
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They had, for 1,200 years or more, had a Bible that nobody could read, except for people that were trained in Latin.
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There was no Greek Bible unless you went over to where they spoke Greek and read the Bible in Greek, and in order to do that, you had to be taught Greek.
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I would venture to guess I might be wrong, but I would venture to guess that there was not anybody that translated the Old Testament that spoke Hebrew natively, and there was nobody that translated the New Testament that spoke Greek as its native language.
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They all learned it as a book exercise, okay, and they could speak it, but they didn't speak it like a native speaking person.
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They may have known the vocabulary, they may have been able to read it in Latin, read it in Greek, read it in Hebrew, but I mean, hebrew had already been dead by that time.
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By 1500 AD, hebrew had been a dead language for hundreds of years.
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Nobody spoke Hebrew.
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Very few people spoke Hebrew in Jesus' day.
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You know, when they are quoted, they're quoted as speaking in Aramaic, they're not quoted as speaking in Hebrew.
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Hebrew hadn't been spoken for a long time and yet the Old Testament is written in Hebrew.
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So the longer you move away, like Latin has been a dead language for 500 years, there's not anybody that speaks Latin as a native tongue.
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They might speak Italian, they might speak Romanian, they might speak Spanish, french, portuguese, the derivatives of Latin, but nobody speaks Latin as their native language.
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And yet, from 400 AD to 1500 AD, the only Bibles that were printed in the Western world were hand-copied versions of a Latin Bible.
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So if you didn't know Latin, you couldn't read it.
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So by the time that these people got around to translating the Bible in the 1500s and the early 1600s, it was an academic exercise to them.
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Now they believed they were moving by the hand of God, and I'm not saying that they weren't, but I am saying that they are not infallible.
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But I am saying that they are not infallible.
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What they were given is not at the same level as what Paul was given when the Holy Ghost moved through him and he dictated 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, Romans, galatians All of those books were dictated by God to the apostles that wrote them.
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I believe that, with my whole heart, I'm not all that convinced that that chain of authority continues on through every copy that was made and every translation that was made, because the earliest Bibles we have are 200-300 years after the birth of Jesus.
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How many copies did that go through before we have that piece of paper?
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Now, the papers, they're called codex, they're parts of Bibles, all the fragments that go up to make our New Testament, that are used to make the King James Version, are in a great level of agreement.
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So we have a pretty good confidence.
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But you don't know I mean you don't know Somebody may have miscopied it, some along the line, and every copy that came out of that is what we have.
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And you also have to realize that history is written by the victors, and there have been a lot of major theological differences in the early church that, once the victor had won, that flavor of their victory got into the translations.
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Same way, the Protestant Bibles were different than the Latin Catholic Bibles Because they brought forth the revelation that they thought they got in the Reformation.
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Are you following any of this Hallelujah?
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So does that mean that these dishes have their infallible work?
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No, it does not.
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It means that it was infallible when Paul got it.
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And so you have to go back Every generation is responsible to do this and that is to dig as deep as you possibly can into the meanings of almost every word and put together a sense of what the Holy Ghost was telling Paul.
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My favorite example of this, the one that just where I really started doing this and learning from God that this was how to study.
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Study is not just learning all of the things about God.
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It's being taught by God what God meant when he said these things and, most specifically, what he means for you when you read it.
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But Paul wrote in Galatians that the Holy Ghost is a spirit of adoption.
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There is a spirit of adoption by which we cry unto the Father, abba, father, amen.
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And that means that we are all, as we come into the family of God, we are all adopted by Him.
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And that's what comes out of that translation, that spirit of adoption, and it all comes out of that translation that we are adopted.
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And what comes out of that translation is a natural progression back to thinking that you are an accident of birth that somehow gets an encounter with God and because God loves you so much, he's going to adopt you into his family, and now you have been made a joint heir with Jesus Christ.
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That is the conventional wisdom concerning salvation, except that it's based on an entirely erroneous premise, and that is that God can adopt anybody.
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See, you've got a problem, and the problem is that Jesus is never called an adopter, he's called the Redeemer.
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I've been over this with you so many times, but to me it is the most glaring example of what I'm talking about.
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They translated something to their understanding, not understanding the conflicts that it made with the rest of the Bible.
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You can't be adopted if you are redeemed, because you can't adopt something that you already own and you can't redeem something that you do not own.
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So if Job called him a redeemer and that has been one of his consistent names throughout all of the Bible then it is impossible to put on God this name of adopter, because he didn't adopt it.
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He redeemed us.
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If he redeemed us, he had possession of us before.
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When did he have possession of us before?
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Before Adam's sin?
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And if he had possession of us before Adam's sin, when did that happen?
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In the beginning, and not in the beginning of Genesis, but in the beginning of John.
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In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God.
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In the beginning was the seed, and the seed was with God.
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Who's the seed?
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We are the seed.
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We've been given that seed.
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Now I'm just telling you how God teaches you.
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Okay, to reject that puts you under the letter of the law.
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Only, if you won't accept the fact that God personally teaches you, then you're saying Jesus is a liar, because the Bible says in John 6.61 that it is written in the prophets that they shall all be taught by God, and the anointing in you teaches you all things.
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This is not a stretch.
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It's just a stretch for religion, because religion doesn't want you to do this, religion doesn't want you to know this, religion doesn't want you to practice this Because you'll put them out of business.
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Hallelujah, glory to God.
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So you can't be redeemed if you're adopted and you can't be redeemed if you're adopted and you can't be adopted if you're redeemed.
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Those two things are logically incongruous.
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They cannot both be true.
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If you've ever studied logic, when two things are incongruous, they can't both exist at the same time.
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So if you say that the pencil is red and the pencil is yellow, the only way that both of those can be true is if it looks like a barber pole.
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Or if half of it's yellow and half of it's red, but it's either red or it's yellow.
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Half of it's yellow and half of it's red, but it's either red or it's yellow.
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You know what's going to make the determination of that Well, in that particular case it's going to be on.
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You know what the majority of people with natural eyesight would say when they saw that pen, you know, or pencil In this case, it's what God says about it In the entirety of His Word.
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So there's no substitution for reading the Word.
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Amen, there's absolutely no substitution for it.
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You need to read it and read it, and read it, and read it, and read it some more.
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But you need to also read it as you're being taught by the Lord, not just as a religious exercise.
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Okay, well, I wrote read four chapters today, or five chapters a day, or at a book today.
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You know, that's a good, great place to start, if you, you know, if you have, and and I I have done that for a long time.
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But there's also a place where God's just going to take you one excruciating slow study of one word for weeks, until he has exhausted your capacity to understand that word.
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Where you are at Now, he may come back.
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I can't tell you how many times he's taken me back through Hebrews, and you know I mean.
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He starts like I don't even know anything, but builds on everything that he's taught me.
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Are you with me on that?
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Am I explaining myself?
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Well, it's the best way to say it.
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I understand.
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It's hard to receive, but this is what Jesus is saying to us in this section of Scripture.
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There is a veil that blinds you when you are convinced that the only thing you can get from God is what's written in the Bible.
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Listen, there are entire denominations that will fight you tooth and nail that the only thing God has ever said is what's written in the Bible.
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Well, what did he and Adam do all those days?
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They walked together in the garden.
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Did they just kind of look at each other?
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I mean, as far as we know, the only thing that God told Adam was don't eat that.
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As we know, the only thing that God told Adam was don't eat that.
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You think that's the only thing that God said to Adam?
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Really, I mean, this may have gone on for a long time.
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We don't know.
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How could they even explain something like that when there was no Bible back then.
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Well see, there's another thing you don't know.
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I mean, look at the gap between when God spoke.
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I mean we've got God talking to Adam.
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We've got God talking to Cain, you know, and then from Cain to you know, enoch.
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We don't have a lot of conversation going on, but God had to be talking to somebody but it's not recorded.
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If it's not recorded doesn't mean that he was silent, just means he was choosy about what he wanted to write down and what he told Moses to write.
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See, you got to understand this.
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Everybody will say well, you know, the Word of God is without error.
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Okay, fine, I'll buy that.
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I don't have a problem with that.
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But if you believe that and if you believe the Scripture that says that all Scripture is God-breathed and holy men of old wrote as the Spirit of God moved upon them, if you believe that, then you better believe that what God told Moses, that he said at certain times to certain people, is what he said to them at that time and in those places.
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At various times, in diverse places, god spoke to prophets of old, but in this day he has spoken to us by his son.
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At various times, in diverse places, god spoke, and sometimes he recorded it and sometimes he didn't.
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John was getting ready to write down what the seven thunders said and the angel said don't write that.
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So there were things that Paul said this.
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He said I went to heaven and I heard things that was unlawful for a man to repeat.
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That didn't mean it was contrary to the law of Moses.
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That just meant that somebody told him not to say it Said this isn't ready for publication yet.
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Okay, you'll confuse people, it'll cause a problem, whatever God's reasons are.
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Well, hey, if you can prove it two or three times, then it happens.
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We've said this more and more times, I can count.
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John said that if everything Jesus said and did would be written, there'd be not enough room in the world for the books.
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That's a lot of space.
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One of these days I'm going to do a computation of that, of how many books that would be.
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That can't fit, just assuming that we're not going to put them in the ocean and drown them, but just using dry land.
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Or how many stacks of yeah, until the wind comes.
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And then what happens?
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Obviously, jesus said a lot of things that we don't know.
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We haven't been written.
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Now here's what I would say to you If everything that God says to you has to be written, who's going to do the writing in your life?
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If it's going to be somebody other than the apostles and prophets, who's going to be somebody other than the apostles and prophets, who's going to be that person?
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And we come back to the same thing.
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Faith doesn't come by reading.
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Faith comes by hearing.
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How many years is it between Adam and Moses?
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How many years is it between Adam and Moses?
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Well, 1,600 years to the flood, and it's about 500 years between Noah and Moses.
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So it's about 2,000 years.
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2,100 years.
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There was not a written word of God on the planet, so for one-third of our existence there has not been a Bible.
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For another 2,000 years, from Moses to Jesus, there was only one people group on the planet that had a Bible.
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Are you hearing what I'm saying?
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For 4,000 years there were a handful of Bibles and they were only known by a handful of people.
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And you're going to tell me that for all that time God was silent.
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I don't believe it.
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In comparison to what we have now in terms of the number of Bibles, what they had at 1500, when they broke away from the Catholic Church, was a pittance of Bibles.
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But that changed when Gutenberg invented the printing press and things started to become published and they became more widespread.
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But up until that point Bibles were chained to pulpits.
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They were so valuable and they were so big and heavy and cumbersome that they were chained.
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Even though nobody could read them and nobody understood them, they were still chained to pulpits so nobody would break in and steal them.
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In a church that was totally covered with gold, it was still the most valuable thing in the church, because none of the other stuff was nailed down.
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I mean, you'd have gold-covered idols, you had gold-covered chalices and plates and candlesticks.
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I mean, if you've never been in a Catholic church, that's just decked out, you have no idea what it's like.
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And yet, I mean up until just recently in history, they would leave the doors wide open all the time.
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But they didn't do that with the Bible.
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They'd chain that to the pulpit.
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Praise God, hallelujah.
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Now I've said all that to say this you need to hear from God, you need to hear God's voice and develop that ability as the most important thing in your life, because the more you listen to him, the more he will teach you and the more he teaches you, the more you walk in this kind of thing that I'm talking about now, where he just starts to squeeze all kinds of meanings and all kinds of revelation out of a handful of words.
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And if he'll do that out of a handful of words, just imagine what he'd do out of the whole New Testament.
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See, listen Most of what I'm going to say this as kindly as I possibly can most of what we have been taught and have learned as Christians has been hearsay information.
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We are given an explanation of certain things Salvation, for example and people will pull out text to prove the point.
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I think I've always thought that's a dangerous thing to do.
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I've always thought that when you're especially when you're preaching, to try to just pull out text all over the place to prove a point, you can quote that scripture that where is it?
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Oh, I can't remember it now it doesn't matter.
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But Steal no more working with your hands.
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You can translate it like that.
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You can, because that's what the words say.
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You know that doesn't make any sense.
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But religion has taught us things because it's been second, third, fourth, fifth level of information.
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None of the denominations are going to move past their doctrinal position.
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None of them will, and so most of us who got taught things by denominations or by ministry groups, have been taught things that are second, third, fourth level information.
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As soon as you start reading your Bible and God starts talking to you and he is saying something different than your little group is saying, you know what's going to happen to you and, man, you're not going to get on the floor and go thus saith the Lord, that'll happen one time and you will be ushered out of there by bodyguards.
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Don't laugh, I've had it happen.
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Nobody wants to hear this stuff, but God wants you to hear it and God wants you to get your minds cleansed and purged and erased and totally rewritten by Him.
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And you know it is not.
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Listen to me very carefully.
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It is not too late to start.
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And if you know it is not, listen to me very carefully.
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It is not too late to start.
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And if you think it is, you are signing your death warrant, because in every situation and it happens more frequently when you're in our age than it does when you're in your 20s and 30s, than it does when you're in your 20s and 30s More things are going to come up to bite you and nip at you because your body is in a weakened condition.
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You need to hear from God as to how to fight through these things.
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Amen.
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Storms happen, tribulations happen, temptations happen, stress happens, all kinds of stuff happens.
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You know, if you think it's not going to happen, you're kidding yourself.
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You look at what happens to people in our age group all right, and they get hit with one thing and they're dead.
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They get hit with one thing and they're paralyzed.
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They get hit with one thing and now they have to have somebody take care of them.
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They're on life support, they're on permanent nursing care, they're on restricted movement.
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I mean, just one thing happens to them.
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I'm here to tell you tonight that you can have a whole bunch of things happen to you and God will show you by his word and by his glory how to press out and press through it and come through in victory.
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